Dear Xti

708 weeks ago

I also am against the "one login to rule them all". It just makes it too easy for corporate America, and the Government, to catalog everything we do in our lives. Just one more step towards RFID chips and whatnot for the tin-foil hat enthusiasts who may be reading.Syldaryn

i have never understood why people think this way…paranoia I guess…

Tits.

Zefyr Admin replied

708 weeks ago

I also am against the "one login to rule them all". It just makes it too easy for corporate America, and the Government, to catalog everything we do in our lives. Just one more step towards RFID chips and whatnot for the tin-foil hat enthusiasts who may be reading.Syldaryn

i have never understood why people think this way…paranoia I guess…Xtinae

Zomg, we agree on something.

Cairstiona Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

Well it isn't paranoia if you just have 1 password and someone gets into ALL your stuff with it! Then it's all, may as well have used 1234.

Anyway, I use IE because I got ticked at FF and Chrome bothering me with their other stuff. I don't like that FF kept trying to get me to pay for mods, and that google REALLY wants me to come be an important part of google + on account of they just can't fkn live without me. Things are where I expect in IE, and I don't have to screw around with it a lot, and if they want to bother me about it they may send an occasional email that I can just delete with my other garbage without even opening it. (That's what I get for having the same main email over 12 or something years now, I want those class reunion ppl to GO AWAY IT HAS NOT BEEN 20 YEARS dammit no one is home!) Not everyone is interested in spending time fine-tuning their webbrowser, they just want to get on and look at cute kitty pictures.

Also, I didn't find Chrome to be any faster than IE, or have trouble with any website but this one since it changed up lately.

All I want for Christmas is maid service and bourbon balls!

Syldaryn Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

I also am against the "one login to rule them all". It just makes it too easy for corporate America, and the Government, to catalog everything we do in our lives. Just one more step towards RFID chips and whatnot for the tin-foil hat enthusiasts who may be reading.Syldaryn

i have never understood why people think this way…paranoia I guess…Xtinae

Zomg, we agree on something.Zefyr

I'm sure paranoia has something to do with it for a lot of people, but not all. It isn't being paranoid to not want a corporation to make money from your personal information. It's one of the same reasons I don't use Facebook very much, and share almost nothing about me or my life on it. Think about it a second. Facebook: A company who started up purely on the value of the personal information its users shared on its network, that is now worth billions of dollars.

There is no reason Google needs to know that I ( ME, not you, not someone else, but ME) visits sites such as cracked.com, or break.com, or watch TV shows (and which shows) on Hulu, etc etc. The only reason they want that information is to sell it to marketing firms and solicitors. This is the same reason I don't use membership cards for gas stations or retail stores and whatnot. I'm not OK with someone making money from selling the fact that I buy White-Out Mt. Dew to the highest bidder.

Now if these companies wanted to start profit-sharing with the consumers who wish to share their information and allow it to be sold in such a way, or if there were some sort of national OPT-IN database that only people on it would have their traffic and purchases logged, well then we would have a system much more fair to the consumer.

Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

First off: I said "some people", not "me"; I really don't mind merging accounts together, as long as no new information is available (gmail + google docs; they're both owned by google, so meh). I am paranoid about large amounts of non-anonymized, centralized data though; I've been on too many government projects not to be. High tech firms regularly have to deal with information leaks, which isn't so bad considering how little personal information most of them have. But when you look at bigger ones…

Think about Facebook + Google search history + Bank of America (personal data only) all rolled into one relational database. If information has value (which it does), that vault is Scrooge McDuck's wet dream. Want to run some crazy, aggregate-only statistical analysis? Great, we have everything you need! Demographic tracking and marketing by geolocation? Sounds like fun! Some dumbass left an unencrypted laptop with access info in their car over lunch? FK'D!

Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

Edit: I'm dumb; anyone who saw that last post, ignore it. I DO know exactly how much I can get at, and have some semblance of what I could do with it, given "private" or "personal" information. And let me tell you, it is AWESOME! :-D

/feeds the paranoia even more

Time to disappear into the ether again!

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Xtinae Admin replied

708 weeks ago

Think about it a second. Facebook: A company who started up purely on the value of the personal information its users shared on its network, that is now worth billions of dollars.Syldaryn

I could have coded the original thefacebook.com in my sleep. I hate that I didn't think of it first. You could only be on FB at first if you attended an Ivy league college, so I was able to join when they added the public ivy colleges to the list. It was different then, no ads, a huge recruitment tool for student orgs…ask anyone how paper flyers on campus soon became obsolete.

but…people who say "they sold out" or "why put ads and make money off peoples info"…have no vision. I am sorry but it is true. What was Mark Z supposed to do? Be happy with only 1 million dollars? They even said it in the movie…."You know what is really cool? A BILLION dollars". Being true to your values or whatever dumb crap only gets you one thing…financial debt. He did what anyone should be doing…taking it to its full potential.

"Sky is the limit" not "the limit is the sky.

Tits.

Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

Being true to your values or whatever dumb crap only gets you one thing…financial debt.Xtinae

That is a crazy blanket statement, taken out of context, although… go go American Dream. I was with you up to that point though.

I don't think anyone really cares about data referenced in aggregate; we all love reading about fun psychological and sociological studies based on exactly that. It's personally identifiable information that is sketchy. Regardless of how it is gathered or maintained, corporations do not own that data (in a legal sense), so they are restricted in its use… but not so much its maintenance.

Ex: However you may get the information, you're only allowed (legally) to do so much with a person's SSN. But you're definitely not required to keep it strictly under lock and key.

Xtinae Admin replied

708 weeks ago

Being true to your values or whatever dumb crap only gets you one thing…financial debt.Xtinae
That is a crazy blanket statement, taken out of context, although… go go American Dream. I was with you up to that point though.Kirisawa

Aye - i know what you mean.

but, not making the most out of a product (or career) isn't financially responsible to yourself, your family, your investors, etc. There are no laws being broken, and until they are, an individual and/or a corporation should not and will not stop to maximize profits. I guess that is what I was trying to say, but I like putting it in less nicer words.

And for a completely different point of view:
Google has to employ people to help run their ads. Ads they have developed are based on your webpages visited or searched for. If that didn't exist, whether you agree with it or not, those people wouldn't have access for that unique set of jobs. They could be unemployed. Their kids would go to bad schools and live in rough neighborhoods. They could run into you at night while you are at the ATM. They leave you in a ditch and rape you.

Dont get left in a ditch after being raped. Work with the system, you will live just fine, I promise.

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Tits.

Syldaryn Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

Being true to your values or whatever dumb crap only gets you one thing…financial debt.Xtinae

I completely disagree with this.

Money may grease the wheels for a lot of people in this world, but things like honor, and morals, and principles are arguably far more important, and this I definitely agree with. I lead a pretty simple life, barely keeping my head above the living from paycheck to paycheck line, and I wouldn't sacrifice my honor, or the principles I hold dear for any amount of money, or to avoid any amount of debt. To do so would be to go against most of what I believe in, and most of what I think the human race is (mostly) about.

If other people want to go whore themselves on the street corner for a few bucks, more power to them I suppose. You won't see me there, and I can guarantee you that I will probably be living a happier and more fullfilled existence than they will be. All because I refuse to sell my soul to Corporate America, or the Government.

So call it "dumb crap" if you want, but if you don't share some sense of moral responsibility, or principles to do what is right, then you definitely aren't living the "good" life, and karma is a cruel mistress who never forgets, and never forgives.

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