Zefyr Admin replied

708 weeks ago

ah-ha. Those numbers are for global. If you look at US only, you get Windows @ 85% (still more than I would guess, but I can at least believe this number), with Mac coming at 14%: http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=8&qpcustomd=0&qpaf=-000%09101%09US%0D

Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

There are Macs all over the place, but the market share is still probably around 10% on desktops. The numbers on the Net Market Share site roughly match those gathered by StatCounter and Wikimedia (see wikipedia page, "Usage share of operating systems"). I don't know how things have changed recently, but aren't a significant percentage of Mac users also running Windows on their computers (the actual OS, not Wine or emulators)?

My real point about the "desktop computer" term was the break between computers for personal use and those for business use. Outside of the software/tech sector I think it's pretty safe to assume that at least 90% of businesses use Windows workstations. Hell, in California government employees make up about 14.5% of the workforce, and you know they aren't using Macs at work. The only exception I can think of is Apple's price breaks for educational institutions, though I'm not sure if those are still happening or if they're still significantly better than Microsoft's.

Edit: Oh yeah, and I assume it's much easier (and worthwhile) to pirate Windows than Mac OS. The numbers are still going down in some of the larger areas, but in 2011 roughly 42% of all personal computers globally were running pirated software (77% in China). Not sure how directly this correlates specifically to OS software, but… honestly, raise your hand if you've never seen a pirated copy of Windows. Yeah…


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Xtinae Admin replied

708 weeks ago

For every 1 school running all macs, there are 1000 companies with their entire staff on win laptops. It is not even close.

anyone doing anything that isnt out of the box, like running windows on mac, are enthusiasts…and will always account for 0.01% or whatever tiny metric it is. It is the reason my company isnt raking in bajillions when they often trade the graphics crown with their rival. not enough people do that to make it substantial. it is only justified with the high premium.

Another huge influence…companies employ MS services….or like in my world, MS and SAP. you know what happens when it doesnt work the way we want it? SAP brings people here and they fix it. It's like me calling infiniti and saying "my driver seat doesnt feel comfty" and they send some asian guy and he shoves more cotton in my seat.

You cant do that with Linux…penguins dont have thumbs.
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Xtinae Admin replied

708 weeks ago

oh, and including cell phone and tablet into market share is extremely deceitful. there is a ceiling on how much mobile space apple or whoever will take. They will never overtake the business space until iPads can dock into dual monitors and full size keyboards, IT staffs can support that, Apple provides 2 way services partnerships, etc.

I am not knocking touch screens, they are great, they cant replace business sector equipment. ceiling.
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Zefyr Admin replied

708 weeks ago

I am wondering when profits from devices and the app store will drop off for Apple. They're now the largest tech company based on market cap (actually that news broke almost a year ago http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/05/apple-passes-microsoft/). It's amazing that the company that apparently owns so little of the desktop market was able to pull that off.

I've been reading the Steve Jobs biography lately. He was a crazy control-freak asshole, but he did design a good products and services.

Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

I've been reading the Steve Jobs biography lately. He was a crazy control-freak asshole, but he did design a good products and services.Zefyr
That may be why his company went crazy when he tried to retire. I never caught that correlation before.

I have the same problem sometimes. It's hard to transition stuff to other people when everything has to be done your way. :-(
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Xtinae Admin replied

708 weeks ago

That's a mistake I wish I had never made early in my career - the sooner you let go of little things and delegate, the sooner you will move up.

Your way could very well be perfect and whatnot, but then you will never notice it is a tiny piece of the puzzle. Do it your way when you know you are staring at the whole pie.


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Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

Wait a minute, I just realized…

Safari mobile market share = 63.8%
Chrome mobile market share = 0.03%
Total mobile market share = 7.3%

IE desktop market share = 54.1%
Chrome desktop market share = 18.9%
Total desktop market share = 92.7%

… So based on Net Market Share's data, Chrome is nowhere near IE; even if Chrome had the entire mobile market cornered, it still would not be anywhere close to IE. But based on StatCounter they're neck-and-neck this month (though as of right now IE is ahead again).

The different weighing methods (or lack thereof) between those two and similar services make me really start to wonder what "market share" even means. I'd be interested to see how the data would differ if we limited it just to LS internet activity; I'm pretty sure people like me would completely curve the end result. ;-)
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Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

No worries Xti, my supervisors are regularly surprised by my lack of ambition. :-D
Do it your way when you know you are staring at the whole pie.Xtinae
Mmmm pie!
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Xtinae Admin replied

708 weeks ago

The different weighing methods (or lack thereof) between those two and similar services make me really start to wonder what "market share" even means. I'd be interested to see how the data would differ if we limited it just to LS internet activity; I'm pretty sure people like me would completely curve the end result.

That's what i am getting at too…lumping in mobile devices with desktop devices….means nothing really.

no one pairs utility trucks with motorcycles and counts which brand of tire is most popular…that would mean nothing.
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