Dear Xti

708 weeks ago

IE will not be the dominant browser forever, it really is OK to embrace something new and till MS to take a fucking hike:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/343501/20120521/google-chrome-world-1-web-browser.htm

Xtinae Admin replied

708 weeks ago

IE will not be the dominant browser forever, it really is OK to embrace something new and till MS to take a fucking hike:

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/343501/20120521/google-chrome-world-1-web-browser.htmZefyr

Your own article shows MS beating all 2:1 for desktop market..????

Tits.

Zefyr Admin replied

708 weeks ago

I'm not sure where you're seeing that…

Third paragraph:

"Internet Explorer usage has tanked from 37.8 percent of the share to just 30.9 percent"

"Google Chrome jumped from 23.8 percent to 27.1 percent of the market share"

"Based on the trends, it looks like Chrome could potentially overtake Internet Explorer here in the U.S. by the end of June."

I'm not sure how 30.9:27.1 = 2:1

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Zefyr Admin replied

708 weeks ago

I guess the article does say that IE is still dominant in JP and South America, but meh. It's fallen off worldwide and is falling off in the US.

Xtinae Admin replied

708 weeks ago

I'm not sure where you're seeing that…

Third paragraph:

"Internet Explorer usage has tanked from 37.8 percent of the share to just 30.9 percent"

"Google Chrome jumped from 23.8 percent to 27.1 percent of the market share"

"Based on the trends, it looks like Chrome could potentially overtake Internet Explorer here in the U.S. by the end of June."

I'm not sure how 30.9:27.1 = 2:1Zefyr

"Internet Explorer has taken a hit from not being available on smartphones or tablets, with its share dipping below 50 percent for the first time in November. "

the link in that quote is: http://www.netmarketshare.com/
on there you can see 2:1 - very dominant PC/desktop lead

MS sucks at phones so far, but coding a website for a phone is far more straight forward than a PC, which is where i get frustrated making sure 103289489 browsers look ok. Just get IE and be happy, info is coming to you in seconds, you should be boasting in awe!

last edited 708 weeks ago by Xtinae

Tits.

Zefyr Admin replied

708 weeks ago

As far as doing actual web design work goes there's no way I could design on IE. The tools available blow donkey nuts compared to what you can get on Firefox or Chrome. And it's not really that bad: get it looking good on Chrome and it pretty much always also looks good on FF and Safari. Then it's just doing whatever fucked up hacks you have to do to make it work on IE too. And usually IE8/9 is fine with whatever worked on Chrome. It's just when you have to backwards compat to 7 or 6 that you're fucked.

Really for the design I've had to do in the last year, it's just been the IE7 compat that's been a problem. Everything else is smooth sailing these days.

Zefyr Admin replied

708 weeks ago

P.S. I'm shocked that link is claiming 92.5% PC desktop lead. Based on what I see in my every day life that just seems completely false. I freely admit I don't live/work in the most internet-normal environment on the planet, but that number is completely ridiculous.

Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

Isn't the 92.5% OS only? I'd believe that high a percentage of PCs run Windows.

For browsers though: It may depend on how the statistics are being gathered. If they're looking at numbers of users who use a given browser, versus which browser they "use" the most (click vs. page load vs. data size?), versus which browser they "prefer", etc. it can get pretty crazy. Example: I can't think of a single person in my office who doesn't use both Chrome and Internet Explorer. Most of us would prefer Chrome or FireFox over IE, but I'm sure we actively use IE more hours of the day. Hell, my personal split is probably something like 70% IE, 20% Chrome, 10% FireFox.

I use Chrome at home whenever I can (mostly because it's easier to kill a single Chrome process when Flash goes crazy), and am posting this through FireFox right now, but… the app I'm developing and testing only officially supports IE, my banking website only displays correctly in IE, one of the company-specific entry portals only authenticates correctly through IE, and the list goes on. I also assume that "PC desktop" includes a large percentage of "workstations" which would come pre-built with Windows and may require IE use for business purposes (at least for now).

Kirisawa Senkei Full Events Access replied

708 weeks ago

Ope sorry, didn't realize the Desktop vs. Mobile / Tablet / Console statistic was also roughly 92.5%:

Browsing by Device Category
Month Desktop Mobile/Tablet Console
04/2012 92.44% 7.30% 0.01%

So yeah… that totally makes sense to me though; even the people I know who browse on their smartphones the most, still browse even more from a desktop PC.

Zefyr Admin replied

708 weeks ago

Isn't the 92.5% OS only? I'd believe that high a percentage of PCs run Windows.Kirisawa

I believe they're using Personal Computer in the broader sense to mean desktop/laptop computers, including Macs. In fact, looking at the link again, they actually say Desktop Computer, not PC, that was my add. I have a hard time believing that Mac still owns less than 10% of the desktop/laptop market. I see macs all over the place, including way more Mac than Windows laptops on the train.

last edited 708 weeks ago by Zefyr

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